rate was worse than when obama started, right, that was the point. now that the numbers have switched and i'm not suggesting the numbers were right to begin with. i'm saying there is an irony to it. >> the irony is that it happened the month before the election. it gets to the first time in his presidency it's been below where he started. >> every month there's a question whether the numbers are right or wrong. >> it's been all participation rate going down. they didn't do the participation rate this time. >> hi, ken. >> how are you today? >> good. >> anecdotally i said earlier every place i talk i see the economy not getting better but almost stalling. is that your read as well? >> absolutely. that's why when you and i and we have our eye on the economy very much we're involved with the economy. it's not getting better. it's getting generally worse. there are pockets are strength, if you look at manhattan it's good but outside is not good. look at miami it's good and outside of miami and almost 98 prgs of the country it's not doing well. you look at